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RE: Unwanted Hitchhiker - runnerhiker - 05-17-2020

[attachment=579]I use DynaPlug, the patch is a sticky rope like the one Darrell mentioned except it is probably thinner, and it has a metal mushroom head. The instructions say don't cut the rope right away, spit on the repair and see if it's holding. If not, stick another plug in.

I used it to repair a tire with a similar screw, it indeed needed two plugs, then I cut them. I used the tire for another 500 miles or so on local rides and it held fine. So the tip is "spit"

RE: Unwanted Hitchhiker - Duckbubbles - 05-18-2020

(05-17-2020, 12:20 PM)Lee Wrote:
(05-17-2020, 11:19 AM)Duckbubbles Wrote: As of right now, I have about 3000 miles on the rear tire on my '03 R1100S BCR (Michelin Pilot Power 2CT) since I installed a Stop-and-Go mushroom plug. Air leakage has been virtually nonexistent. Easiest, quickest fix in my experience.

Frank

Which Stop and Go tool did you use?
I have a Stop&Go "Tubeless Puncture Pilot" kit that includes an electric air pump. If memory serves, it cost about $40-$50 and includes insertion tools. I found that by following the instructions for inserting the mushroom plug into the insertion tool (an important step as I learned) the job went quickly and easily. The kit includes glue which I didn't use since the plugs are coated with "something". I am lucky in that I picked up a screw on the previous ride and the tire was flat in my shop.

I've had inconsistent luck with ropes and the like and the Stop&Go kit is the best I've seen. To initially test the kit, I drilled a hole in a take-off tire and plugged it in my shop. Then I let the air out of the rear on my RS and used the included pump to refill- it took 5-6 minutes and I learned that the gauge on the pump was quite accurate.

Frank

Unwanted Hitchhiker - Duccrazydave - 05-19-2020

I have the same kit, Frank. That pump does a great job, considering it’s size. The stuff on the included plugs seems more like some type of lube than anything else. Guess it helps when exiting the installation tool.
Definitely an easy process.


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RE: Unwanted Hitchhiker - Duckbubbles - 05-19-2020

(05-19-2020, 05:18 AM)Duccrazydave Wrote: I have the same kit, Frank. That pump does a great job, considering it’s size. The stuff on the included plugs seems more like some type of lube than anything else. Guess it helps when exiting the installation tool.
Definitely an easy process.


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I am too often of the mindset that "instructions are for dummies" and go with what I can figure out on my own. I tried to install the mushroom plug into the insertion tool when I first got the kit and it was a miserable failure. I left the mushroom plugs at home and carried some rope types with me on a trip- luckily, I didn't need them. After I got home and had a used tire to experiment on, I drilled the hole and READ THE INSTRUCTIONS. Easiest install I have ever experienced! YMMV

Frank

RE: Unwanted Hitchhiker - Grumpy Goat - 05-20-2020

(05-19-2020, 10:47 AM)Duckbubbles Wrote: I am too often of the mindset that "instructions are for dummies" and go with what I can figure out on my own.

A long time ago I used to have that same mindset, until I discovered that I was a dummy and that I needed to read the instructions or risk wasting money and time. Now I read all instructions first, even if cursorily. Big Grin

Unwanted Hitchhiker - Duccrazydave - 05-20-2020

Should be the end of this adventure. Managed to install a plug/patch last night and get everything back together. Just another observation of the Road 5 construction: The overall flexibility of the carcass, off the rim, is closer to a Metzeler DOT track tire that I’ve run on my Ducati, than a sport touring tire.
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RE: Unwanted Hitchhiker - Grumpy Goat - 05-20-2020

Nice work Dave.

I may have to get a box of these too, since I only have 4 left of the Stop N Go patches. Home Depot sells them too.

Unwanted Hitchhiker - Duccrazydave - 05-20-2020

If I’m not mistaken, the Stop and Go version has 1/8” plug I ordered these with the larger 1/4” plug. Ordered them from Amazon


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RE: Unwanted Hitchhiker - Grumpy Goat - 05-20-2020

(05-20-2020, 10:36 AM)Duccrazydave Wrote: If I’m not mistaken, the Stop and Go version has 1/8” plug I ordered these with the larger 1/4” plug. Ordered them from Amazon

Yeah, I saw that Steelman had the 1/8" plug patch as well.

RE: Unwanted Hitchhiker - Ray - 05-21-2020

(05-17-2020, 08:34 PM)runnerhiker Wrote: I use DynaPlug, the patch is a sticky rope like the one Darrell mentioned except it is probably thinner, and it has a metal mushroom head. The instructions say don't cut the rope right away, spit on the repair and see if it's holding. If not, stick another plug in.

I used it to repair a tire with a similar screw, it indeed needed two plugs, then I cut them. I used the tire for another 500 miles or so on local rides and it held fine. So the tip is "spit"
Though I carry a bigger kit with a real reamer and thicker strings in my tailbag or tank bag, I've played with the Dynaplug, and am confident enough to use it as my backup as it is small enough to store in the seat panels with 48 g of CO2..., half of what's needed for a full reinflation of the rear tire.

Have to say, although I've repaired 2 flat tires on the road on my bicycle recently, after close to 20 years with no flats (did I just jinx myself again) I no longer feel like I'm much of an expert on on-road repair of tubeless motorcycle or car tires. On the other hand, it's easy to get a little superstitious and take the position I will only flat when I have nothing with which to fix it. On long trips, with 3 sources of air (electric pump, hand pump, CO2 - 138 g total), 2 different repair kits, and occasionally tire irons in anticipation of sewing, gluing and booting a side wall on gravel..., I should never get a flat....)

Right side - Dynaplug, CO2 cartridge and inflator.
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Left side - 2 additional CO2 cartridges. Note - these are only 16 G cartridges. The more convenient 45 g cartridges didn't fit as well.
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RE: Unwanted Hitchhiker - Olgry1 - 05-21-2020

Nice locations for storage of tire repair items. I am going to see if the RT has similar spaces.
I have tried to fix two flats on the road for friends bikes (successful on one but not on the other - sidewall puncture). So far I have been blessed with tires on road but am "due".

RE: Unwanted Hitchhiker - runnerhiker - 05-22-2020

Ray, I think you are right, carrying all that repair stuff is the best karma for not getting a flat.;-)

RE: Unwanted Hitchhiker - Ray - 05-22-2020

(05-22-2020, 12:59 PM)runnerhiker Wrote: Ray, I think you are right, carrying all that repair stuff is the best karma for not getting a flat.;-)
Yeah - that and the fact that (with notable exceptions of a few pair of touring sport tires) I generally retire my tires with plenty of rubber to spare.

Of course you are right - the Karma thing always comes to play. I still believe Darrell's new-tire flat a couple of years ago, was his payment for 10s of thousands of dry miles. I on the other hand, have recently attracted every isolated rain cloud....