+- BMW R1200RS / R1250RS Forum Community (https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum)
+-- Forum: General Forums (https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/forum-7.html)
+--- Forum: Servicing & Maintenance (https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/forum-15.html)
+--- Thread: BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil (/thread-471.html)
Pages:
1
2
BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - mspratz - 02-20-2021
I was at my local dealer the other day, Cycle Werks in Barrington IL. The parts guy Dan told me that BMW are changing the recommended final drive oil for all their bikes. Instead of the Castrol SAF-XO, which costs about $23 a liter when I bought it a while back, BMW are now recommending something else. I can't remember what the new oil is called, and I did not take a photo of the bottle he showed me. On the MAXBMW fiche the recommended final drive oil now shows as HYPOID AXLE OIL G3, so I'm guessing that is it. The price on the fiche currently say N/A.
Dan told me the price is $80.00 for half a liter. Yikes! Must be some magic stuff.
I see some selling it online for $70.00 per half liter.
RE: BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - MrVvrroomm - 02-20-2021
https://www.beemerboneyard.com/lqmsgo1500ml.html
Don't overthink it.
RE: BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - Lee - 02-20-2021
I just bought a liter in November $25.80
I'm not going to throw it away
It's the same black bottle with grey label that I've been buying for a long time.
Bottled by BMW and probably made by Castrol.
RE: BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - Lee - 02-20-2021
(02-20-2021, 12:39 PM)mspratz Wrote: MAXBMW fiche the recommended final drive oil now shows as HYPOID AXLE OIL G3,
The old stuff was rated GL 5.
RE: BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - mspratz - 02-20-2021
(02-20-2021, 03:26 PM)MrVvrroomm Wrote: https://www.beemerboneyard.com/lqmsgo1500ml.htmlI'm not looking for a recommendation, I have plenty of the Castrol stuff left which I intend to use. I just thought others might find it interesting that BMW decided to change the recommended oil to something eight times the price.
Don't overthink it.
RE: BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - Lee - 02-20-2021
I Googled Hypoid G3 and see the BMW bottled stuff is 70w80.
I also saw a ADV thread stating the G3 is recommended in the 1250 manual.
Surprised this is the first I've heard of it.
RE: BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - Lee - 02-20-2021
More Google
G3 is just a name BMW is using.
The G3 is a GL-5 oil like we use now except it's 70w80.
There may be some other differences but I did not read that far.
RE: BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - Grumpy Goat - 02-20-2021
(02-20-2021, 12:39 PM)mspratz Wrote: I was at my local dealer the other day, Cycle Werks in Barrington IL. The parts guy Dan told me that BMW are changing the recommended final drive oil for all their bikes. Instead of the Castrol SAF-XO, which costs about $23 a liter when I bought it a while back, BMW are now recommending something else. I can't remember what the new oil is called, and I did not take a photo of the bottle he showed me. On the MAXBMW fiche the recommended final drive oil now shows as HYPOID AXLE OIL G3, so I'm guessing that is it. The price on the fiche currently say N/A.
Dan told me the price is $80.00 for half a liter. Yikes! Must be some magic stuff.
I see some selling it online for $70.00 per half liter.
Maybe it fixes the shaft / yoke / spline issues that may or may not happen.
A quick Google search shows prices as low as $49. Still pricey.
RE: BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - Grumpy Goat - 02-20-2021
(02-20-2021, 04:16 PM)Lee Wrote: I just bought a liter in November $25.80
I'm not going to throw it away
It's the same black bottle with grey label that I've been buying for a long time.
Bottled by BMW and probably made by Castrol.
Same here. I will continue to use the old stuff. Bike is out of warranty anyhow. Thanks Michael for the note about the change though. I wonder what is the real reason for the change.
RE: BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - Chris216 - 02-21-2021
They probably changed their lubricant provider. I know on the car side BMW LL1 designation moves around with the supplier at the time. New stuff does seem awfully pricey though.
Chris
RE: BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - Lee - 02-21-2021
(02-20-2021, 07:14 PM)Grumpy Goat Wrote: Maybe it fixes the shaft / yoke / spline issues that may or may not happen.
How would it help the splines?
BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - Grumpy Goat - 02-21-2021
(02-21-2021, 09:19 AM)Lee Wrote:(02-20-2021, 07:14 PM)Grumpy Goat Wrote: Maybe it fixes the shaft / yoke / spline issues that may or may not happen.
How would it help the splines?
I was being sarcastic.
It wouldn’t help any of those components which is what “needs” to be changed, if anything. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
RE: BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - mspratz - 02-21-2021
(02-21-2021, 10:01 AM)Grumpy Goat Wrote: I was being sarcastic.That's a relief! I thought you maybe you were losing it.
BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - Grumpy Goat - 02-21-2021
(02-21-2021, 11:25 AM)mspratz Wrote:(02-21-2021, 10:01 AM)Grumpy Goat Wrote: I was being sarcastic.That's a relief! I thought you maybe you were losing it.
Not yet.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
RE: BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - runnerhiker - 02-21-2021
At that price, I am guessing it will improve gas mileage and tire wear. ;-)
RE: BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - AlanM - 02-23-2021
Hi all,
I will be staying with Castrol and as I usually do, change at 6000 miles.
This I feel will be much better system and cheaper than the revised BMW way.
Just look at the colour of 12000 mile oil.
The job only takes 15 mins and 1 litre will last 36,000 miles this way!
AlanM
RE: BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - Olgry1 - 02-23-2021
I agree. Castrol for me!
RE: BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - Boxerboy55 - 02-08-2023
(02-23-2021, 04:53 PM)Olgry1 Wrote: I agree. Castrol for me!
The remains of my first bottle isn’t enough for the next change so today my new bottle arrived - with fancy new graphics.
This will outlast me I think
RE: BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - sanemancured - 04-20-2023
I've got one more change left in the bottle, just.
I change every 6,000 too or annually if more frequent. I'm surprised how dark the oil gets in that time.
No significant debris on the magnetic plug.
RE: BMW change to recommended Final Drive oil - Grumpy Goat - 04-20-2023
(04-20-2023, 03:35 AM)sanemancured Wrote: I've got one more change left in the bottle, just.
I change every 6,000 too or annually if more frequent. I'm surprised how dark the oil gets in that time.
No significant debris on the magnetic plug.
My first FD oil change was pretty black, but over the years it has cleared up a significant amount. Now it is darker than original but not much. I did upgrade the magnetic drain plug with one with a stronger magnet, and that clearly (no pun intended) helps.
Dimple Magnetic Drain Plug: https://tinyurl.com/t8yzz3ef