https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/ Sat, 24 Oct 2026 09:14:16 +0000 MyBB https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-1145.html Fri, 30 Aug 2024 10:58:52 -0500 Lee]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-1145.html Price after rebate was $132 for each tire.
Tax and install was on top of that.


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Tax and install was on top of that.


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My bike has 13,000 kms on its' OEM tires, so at SOME point I will have to get a new set....but which ??

Have you guys gone back to the OEMs or not ??
What have you put on the bike instead ??  Why ??

Thanks in advance for sharing your experience.....it will help me decide when that time comes.

NOTE- I used Dunlop E3 & E4 on my Yamaha 1300 V-Star, and found them very good & long lasting.....could these be used on my RS ??

Joe]]>
My bike has 13,000 kms on its' OEM tires, so at SOME point I will have to get a new set....but which ??

Have you guys gone back to the OEMs or not ??
What have you put on the bike instead ??  Why ??

Thanks in advance for sharing your experience.....it will help me decide when that time comes.

NOTE- I used Dunlop E3 & E4 on my Yamaha 1300 V-Star, and found them very good & long lasting.....could these be used on my RS ??

Joe]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-1042.html Sat, 23 Dec 2023 18:40:19 -0600 NormR]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-1042.html https://ec.europa.eu/safety-gate-alerts/...52?lang=en

Not sure who this might affect]]> https://ec.europa.eu/safety-gate-alerts/...52?lang=en

Not sure who this might affect]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-1028.html Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:13:32 -0600 NormR]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-1028.html
I've been a preferred Michelin tire guy for almost 10-15 yrs now and have tried the Road 3-4-5's probably exclusively. I've come to realize my "rain riding" is extremely rare and I might have been caught 2-3 times in an actual downpour in 10 yrs time. Thus, I am considering moving away from the Road's to another brand. I'd like to construct a riders tire survey to get an idea what everybody else is riding on? I'm still interested in longevity of course but can give up rain mode for more stickiness. Not exactly sure how to proceed/construct with the survey though?

cheers]]>
I've been a preferred Michelin tire guy for almost 10-15 yrs now and have tried the Road 3-4-5's probably exclusively. I've come to realize my "rain riding" is extremely rare and I might have been caught 2-3 times in an actual downpour in 10 yrs time. Thus, I am considering moving away from the Road's to another brand. I'd like to construct a riders tire survey to get an idea what everybody else is riding on? I'm still interested in longevity of course but can give up rain mode for more stickiness. Not exactly sure how to proceed/construct with the survey though?

cheers]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-800.html Sat, 30 Jul 2022 06:42:50 -0500 36654]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-800.html
Breaking the bead wasn't too bad.  I used the Pickup trailer hitch mount as an upside-down fulcrum and pinched the tire with a 2x4 lever and offset wedge block.  These precision tools were wood straps in the shop.  

24-inch wire ties would have been perfect, but the local HomeDepot only had 14-inch ties.  I assumed I needed to wrap the tire at 8 points or every 45 degrees.   The store Econo brand HDX ties were cheapest but too wimpy for the task........they broke while compressing the tire.  The next cheapest (Commercial Electric) brand ties were rated at 60 lbs and worked well enough for the job.  The object is to make the beads touch all the way around the tire.

I slit a piece of small diameter (5/8") garden house to make rim protectors and used a very mild solution of Simple Green as a lubricant.  Why Simple Green?  It was handy in the shop and makes soapy bubbles.  At that point in time, my 30-seconds of rigorous research and application of the scientific method said ... it should work.  

Either my lube didn't lubricate or I'm just a wimp, but 6-inches of bead was about all I could get over the rim after 30-minutes of struggle.  After another 30-minutes, using some taper wood shims, the tire was off.  I was soaked with sweat, but the rim wasn't scratched.  Next step, patching the tire.  

Since I didn't have the cleaner (buffing solution), vulcanizing compound (glue), good quality radial patch or roller, I ran to my local auto garage for this simple job.  The first shop said they didn't think their round patch would adhere to a rounded profile MC tire (the hole was slightly off center).  The second shop said they never install patches because plugs are better.  The 3rd shop, which does ATV repairs, said there isn't enough interior material on an MC tire to properly buff the material for patching.  The last shop was willing to sell a patch and lend me a can of vulcanizing compound, but then declined when they saw the plug and claimed it was too big of a hole.

Driving home. my friend with the tire changer texted me.  His shop would be open tomorrow afternoon.  At that point, I determined I had enough education and discovered I didn't care about the remaining 1000 miles of tread wear.]]>
Breaking the bead wasn't too bad.  I used the Pickup trailer hitch mount as an upside-down fulcrum and pinched the tire with a 2x4 lever and offset wedge block.  These precision tools were wood straps in the shop.  

24-inch wire ties would have been perfect, but the local HomeDepot only had 14-inch ties.  I assumed I needed to wrap the tire at 8 points or every 45 degrees.   The store Econo brand HDX ties were cheapest but too wimpy for the task........they broke while compressing the tire.  The next cheapest (Commercial Electric) brand ties were rated at 60 lbs and worked well enough for the job.  The object is to make the beads touch all the way around the tire.

I slit a piece of small diameter (5/8") garden house to make rim protectors and used a very mild solution of Simple Green as a lubricant.  Why Simple Green?  It was handy in the shop and makes soapy bubbles.  At that point in time, my 30-seconds of rigorous research and application of the scientific method said ... it should work.  

Either my lube didn't lubricate or I'm just a wimp, but 6-inches of bead was about all I could get over the rim after 30-minutes of struggle.  After another 30-minutes, using some taper wood shims, the tire was off.  I was soaked with sweat, but the rim wasn't scratched.  Next step, patching the tire.  

Since I didn't have the cleaner (buffing solution), vulcanizing compound (glue), good quality radial patch or roller, I ran to my local auto garage for this simple job.  The first shop said they didn't think their round patch would adhere to a rounded profile MC tire (the hole was slightly off center).  The second shop said they never install patches because plugs are better.  The 3rd shop, which does ATV repairs, said there isn't enough interior material on an MC tire to properly buff the material for patching.  The last shop was willing to sell a patch and lend me a can of vulcanizing compound, but then declined when they saw the plug and claimed it was too big of a hole.

Driving home. my friend with the tire changer texted me.  His shop would be open tomorrow afternoon.  At that point, I determined I had enough education and discovered I didn't care about the remaining 1000 miles of tread wear.]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-798.html Wed, 27 Jul 2022 08:46:44 -0500 36654]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-798.html https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-793.html Fri, 22 Jul 2022 10:52:47 -0500 36654]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-793.html
Thanks]]>
Thanks]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-787.html Thu, 14 Jul 2022 07:26:20 -0500 36654]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-787.html 1) Loosen the bottom triple clamp pinch bolts
2) Mount the front wheel
3) "Bounce" the front suspension several times
4) Tighten the bottom triple clamp pinch bolts 

Is that correct?]]> 1) Loosen the bottom triple clamp pinch bolts
2) Mount the front wheel
3) "Bounce" the front suspension several times
4) Tighten the bottom triple clamp pinch bolts 

Is that correct?]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-786.html Mon, 11 Jul 2022 10:10:24 -0500 36654]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-786.html
A finishing nail has accelerated my tire purchase by a month or two......]]>
A finishing nail has accelerated my tire purchase by a month or two......]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-775.html Thu, 30 Jun 2022 22:38:43 -0500 Lee]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-775.html Took our wheels to Cycle Clinic in Des Moines today. This is the place where we bought two new BMW K75Ts in 1988. Debbie's first bike.
No longer a BMW dealer but we keep going back to him for tires.
The new tires are Dunlop Roadsmart III.
After rebate each set cost $170 plus tax.

If you prefer the Roadsmart IV and a BMW MOA member you can get a free front tire when buying a back tire.
Revzilla sells the Rear Roadsmart IV for $209.


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No longer a BMW dealer but we keep going back to him for tires.
The new tires are Dunlop Roadsmart III.
After rebate each set cost $170 plus tax.

If you prefer the Roadsmart IV and a BMW MOA member you can get a free front tire when buying a back tire.
Revzilla sells the Rear Roadsmart IV for $209.


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Also replaced the final drive oil while the rear wheels were off.]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-642.html Mon, 28 Feb 2022 20:55:06 -0600 Lee]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-642.html
https://www.dunlopmotorcycletires.com/of...aler-2480/

Offer available only at authorized
participating Dunlop Motorcycle Tires Pro Dealer retailers in the US and Canada.
Purchases made through distributors, online websites, Amazon or online
auctions, including Ebay, do not qualify.]]>
https://www.dunlopmotorcycletires.com/of...aler-2480/

Offer available only at authorized
participating Dunlop Motorcycle Tires Pro Dealer retailers in the US and Canada.
Purchases made through distributors, online websites, Amazon or online
auctions, including Ebay, do not qualify.]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-609.html Tue, 04 Jan 2022 21:16:50 -0600 Grumpy Goat]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-609.html Michelin Road 6 tire, available after 1-Jan-2022.


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Looking at the tread pattern it certainly looks like a great performer in the wet and it claims to have the same grip in the dry and also have 10% better longevity, which does not match up to the claim Dunlop makes of over 40% compared with the same standard (Road 5). Also, the use of the 2CT+ technology on the front tire could see better resistance to cupping ...? That was my experience with the PR4s - front tire cupping.

Anyone going to give the Road 6s a try? Looks like $183 (front) and $234 (rear) for the Road 6s vs $158 (front) and $209 (rear) for the Roadsmart 4s (Revzilla prices).]]> Michelin Road 6 tire, available after 1-Jan-2022.


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Looking at the tread pattern it certainly looks like a great performer in the wet and it claims to have the same grip in the dry and also have 10% better longevity, which does not match up to the claim Dunlop makes of over 40% compared with the same standard (Road 5). Also, the use of the 2CT+ technology on the front tire could see better resistance to cupping ...? That was my experience with the PR4s - front tire cupping.

Anyone going to give the Road 6s a try? Looks like $183 (front) and $234 (rear) for the Road 6s vs $158 (front) and $209 (rear) for the Roadsmart 4s (Revzilla prices).]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-590.html Tue, 16 Nov 2021 09:59:52 -0600 darrell]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-590.html
When introduced in August of 2020, the Roadsmart IV tires came in with a two-compound design on the tire’s exterior, which enables the tires to last longer on the highway straights while still retaining grip on the shoulders for aggressive cornering. Then, there’s a third compound beneath the tires’ surface, intended to help them get to peak operating speed more quickly. The Roadsmart IV line also came to market with the usual talk of improved tread and tire profile offering heightened performance. Originally, the tire came in 17-inch and 18-inch front sizes. Rear tires were only available in 17-inch sizes.

A little over a year later, Dunlop is tweaking the Roadsmart IV:

In the most popular sizes (120/70ZR17 front; 180/55ZR17 and 190/55ZR17 rear) Dunlop has developed two distinct versions of the RoadSmart IV. The SP variant is optimised for lighter and sportier road machines, whereas the GT variant is tuned to bring greater handling prowess to larger touring bikes.

Dunlop says the Roadsmart IV is designed to fit 17 of Europe’s 20 top-selling bikes, including the BMW R1250 GS as well as crossover touring machines like the Yamaha Tracer. While obviously not a dirt-oriented tire, it would be a possible option for road-biased travelers, particularly now that there’s a version developed that’s intended for heavier machines. Presumable, the tires intended for heavier bikes have a slightly different compound and beefier carcass, although they may look the same.

The updated design joins the Mutant, the street-legal K950 trials tire and the reintroduced D605 dual-sport tire in Dunlop’s US lineup. Despite COVID supply chain issues, Dunlop seems keep its touring/ADV/dirt/dual sport lines healthy.]]>
When introduced in August of 2020, the Roadsmart IV tires came in with a two-compound design on the tire’s exterior, which enables the tires to last longer on the highway straights while still retaining grip on the shoulders for aggressive cornering. Then, there’s a third compound beneath the tires’ surface, intended to help them get to peak operating speed more quickly. The Roadsmart IV line also came to market with the usual talk of improved tread and tire profile offering heightened performance. Originally, the tire came in 17-inch and 18-inch front sizes. Rear tires were only available in 17-inch sizes.

A little over a year later, Dunlop is tweaking the Roadsmart IV:

In the most popular sizes (120/70ZR17 front; 180/55ZR17 and 190/55ZR17 rear) Dunlop has developed two distinct versions of the RoadSmart IV. The SP variant is optimised for lighter and sportier road machines, whereas the GT variant is tuned to bring greater handling prowess to larger touring bikes.

Dunlop says the Roadsmart IV is designed to fit 17 of Europe’s 20 top-selling bikes, including the BMW R1250 GS as well as crossover touring machines like the Yamaha Tracer. While obviously not a dirt-oriented tire, it would be a possible option for road-biased travelers, particularly now that there’s a version developed that’s intended for heavier machines. Presumable, the tires intended for heavier bikes have a slightly different compound and beefier carcass, although they may look the same.

The updated design joins the Mutant, the street-legal K950 trials tire and the reintroduced D605 dual-sport tire in Dunlop’s US lineup. Despite COVID supply chain issues, Dunlop seems keep its touring/ADV/dirt/dual sport lines healthy.]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-587.html Thu, 11 Nov 2021 15:35:33 -0600 darrell]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-587.html
According to online tire industry publications, Dunlop’s motorcycle tires are going to see a price hike in North America this fall.

If you’re shocked that there are multiple online tire industry publications, well, we’re kind of surprised ourselves. Nevertheless, both Rubber News and TireBusiness.com are reporting on different aspects of this story. Alas, both websites are paywalled, but here’s the gist of it: Sumitomo Rubber North America (SRNA), the parent company behind Dunlop’s motorcycle tire business, is facing rapidly rising costs. As a result, it’s increasing prices again, boosting the MSRPs for moto rubber by 15 percent effective October 2021.

A call to SRNA’s offices was not returned, so we are unable to positively confirm this news.

This follows two earlier price hikes in 2021 for various SRNA passenger vehicle tires. It also comes as the US’s Consumer Price Index inflation rate is officially pegged at 5.4 percent from September of 2020 through September of 2021. That’s already quite high, but some prophets of economic doom say the situation is far worse. American inflation rates are purposefully under-reported, some economists claim, and actually reach into the double-digit range, around 15 percent—which would match up with Dunlop’s moto tire price increases.

With motorcyclists already feeling other supply chain pinches (restricted parts availability, rising costs of gasoline, long waits for new machines), the news that tire prices are rising is most certainly unwelcome. To paraphrase General George S. Patton, “I can eat my belt, but my bike’s gotta have tires.”

However, it’s unsurprising to see the price hikes. Some of Dunlop’s tires may be made in Asia, but its New York-based plant is the only motorcycle tire factory in North America … and therefore subject to the same economic woes the rest of our continent’s industrial sector is currently facing. Shipping snarls, raw material shortages and price increases, labor turnover, not to mention the constant presence of COVID-19—it’s all happening now.]]>
According to online tire industry publications, Dunlop’s motorcycle tires are going to see a price hike in North America this fall.

If you’re shocked that there are multiple online tire industry publications, well, we’re kind of surprised ourselves. Nevertheless, both Rubber News and TireBusiness.com are reporting on different aspects of this story. Alas, both websites are paywalled, but here’s the gist of it: Sumitomo Rubber North America (SRNA), the parent company behind Dunlop’s motorcycle tire business, is facing rapidly rising costs. As a result, it’s increasing prices again, boosting the MSRPs for moto rubber by 15 percent effective October 2021.

A call to SRNA’s offices was not returned, so we are unable to positively confirm this news.

This follows two earlier price hikes in 2021 for various SRNA passenger vehicle tires. It also comes as the US’s Consumer Price Index inflation rate is officially pegged at 5.4 percent from September of 2020 through September of 2021. That’s already quite high, but some prophets of economic doom say the situation is far worse. American inflation rates are purposefully under-reported, some economists claim, and actually reach into the double-digit range, around 15 percent—which would match up with Dunlop’s moto tire price increases.

With motorcyclists already feeling other supply chain pinches (restricted parts availability, rising costs of gasoline, long waits for new machines), the news that tire prices are rising is most certainly unwelcome. To paraphrase General George S. Patton, “I can eat my belt, but my bike’s gotta have tires.”

However, it’s unsurprising to see the price hikes. Some of Dunlop’s tires may be made in Asia, but its New York-based plant is the only motorcycle tire factory in North America … and therefore subject to the same economic woes the rest of our continent’s industrial sector is currently facing. Shipping snarls, raw material shortages and price increases, labor turnover, not to mention the constant presence of COVID-19—it’s all happening now.]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-504.html Tue, 13 Apr 2021 09:36:07 -0500 Grumpy Goat]]> https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/thread-504.html


The guy was so lucky. I guess it popped up for me because I am interested in these Conti tires since their features seem interesting. After watching this maybe I will only fit the ContiSport tires to the S1000R, since the load is lighter and speeds are not consistently high.

This looks like delamination and first time I have seen this on a motorcycle tire, although there is no reason that it couldn't / shouldn't happen since the principal causes are underinflation (leading to increase in temperature) and overloading. Riding at high speed for long periods of time also leads to significant rise in temperature. Truck tire treads are the most frequent that we see especially on the side of the road, but some of us ride long distance at higher speeds and in hot temperatures, while loaded heavily.

Very important to pay attention to the tire pressures (I am anal about this on my trailer) and sticking to the manufacturer's recommendations.

As for the Continental tires -- they claim that instead of using 2 compounds (harder in centre and softer at sides) they use one compound, but prefer a differential heat curing approach to achieve a harder centre strip. Well looking at this guy's tire it certainly looks like the adhesion of that centre strip is what failed. In all fairness he was cruising on the Autobahn at over 130 mph. I did not recall him mentioning about tire pressure at the time. I don't think that it is limited to Continental tires, but his video is certainly an eye opener, especially with a fresh tire.

Any experience and info on motorcycle tire delamination?]]>


The guy was so lucky. I guess it popped up for me because I am interested in these Conti tires since their features seem interesting. After watching this maybe I will only fit the ContiSport tires to the S1000R, since the load is lighter and speeds are not consistently high.

This looks like delamination and first time I have seen this on a motorcycle tire, although there is no reason that it couldn't / shouldn't happen since the principal causes are underinflation (leading to increase in temperature) and overloading. Riding at high speed for long periods of time also leads to significant rise in temperature. Truck tire treads are the most frequent that we see especially on the side of the road, but some of us ride long distance at higher speeds and in hot temperatures, while loaded heavily.

Very important to pay attention to the tire pressures (I am anal about this on my trailer) and sticking to the manufacturer's recommendations.

As for the Continental tires -- they claim that instead of using 2 compounds (harder in centre and softer at sides) they use one compound, but prefer a differential heat curing approach to achieve a harder centre strip. Well looking at this guy's tire it certainly looks like the adhesion of that centre strip is what failed. In all fairness he was cruising on the Autobahn at over 130 mph. I did not recall him mentioning about tire pressure at the time. I don't think that it is limited to Continental tires, but his video is certainly an eye opener, especially with a fresh tire.

Any experience and info on motorcycle tire delamination?]]>