Tire Information

[Duccrazydave]

Realistically, another 500 miles (on the rear tire) wouldn’t hurt. But since I’ve already patch/plugged the rear, it’s time for a new set. Most of those miles were spent on NC 66, 89 & VA 8, RT 40. Best front end feel I’ve had from any tire.
As to the pressures, it helps to check after hauling the bike over the passes in Colorado. Where I typically run 2psi under recommended, I found 46/45 psi AFTER my Black Canyon run!
Duh. Everything back to normal for the Saguache run the next day :-)



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[Lee]

I'll have them on for the Lake Louise/Gunnison trip. Hopefully the Canadian border will be open for that!

When are you going?

[darrell]

As to the pressures, it helps to check after hauling the bike over the passes in Colorado. Where I typically run 2psi under recommended, I found 46/45 psi AFTER my Black Canyon run!

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I check my pressures every 2 - 3 days or even daily if I change temperatures or altitude significantly. I’m at 1000 ft in MN. I removed 1.5# when I was in the Black Hills and removed another 1.5# when I was in Colorado so I could keep mine cold pressures at 38 front and 42 rear. Arriving in Kansas a week ago Friday I added 2.5# in each tire Saturday morning before I left on that days ride towards home. So altitude and temperatures do affect pressures.

[BobAin'tStoppin']

I'll have them on for the Lake Louise/Gunnison trip. Hopefully the Canadian border will be open for that!

When are you going?

Lee, Lake Louise was supposed to be on the way to Gunnison. Had to cancel when the border didn't open up. Went to Durango instead. Hoping to do the Lake Louise thing next year.

[36654]

Just to prove that one is not enough, I replaced my "at the wear bar" Road 5 front with a Road 5 GT at ~5600-miles. The rear Road 5 looks good for 2000+ miles.

Unlike DuccrazyDave, the center on my front Road 5 had decent tread depth. Immediately to both sides, the tread was shredded as if a rasp had been applied at a taper.

If the Road 5 GT doesn't workout, I'll move on from my many years as a Michelin Road customer........    

[Duckbubbles]

I have been getting about 6500 miles out of the Road 5 front and the rear will go 8000+ miles. Last tire change I just put on a front but next time I'll change both. I don't like the mis-matched fitment. Nothing wrong with the handling etc., I'm just that way.
As an aside, I have been getting around 6500 miles from the sets (2) of Pilot Power 2CT on my '03 R1100S. Almost enough to consider running them on my RS. Already have replacement sets for both bikes siting in the house. I don't want to run the Road 5 on the S. I like the sporty tires on it since it is just a day rider.

Frank

[darrell]

I updated post number 1 in this thread to include all the tires I have used in 5 riding seasons.

[Duccrazydave]

Thanks Darrell!


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[mojoguzzi]

Late to the party but this thread seemed a good one to post in.

I have 5999 miles on my 2020 RS and its stock tires. Looking to replace--bad cupping on the front (pictures later, but, honestly, it's too dark and too cold tonight to shoot ). I sold my KTM 1290 Super Adventure S to the dealer I'd bought it from. Part of the sale was the promise of two tires and installation when I needed them.

So--what's your recco? Sounds like Dunlop Roadsmart 5 GT might be the way to go...or the Michelin Road 5 GT (I've run earlier versions on my KTM and on my FJR).

Thanks in advance!

[Ray]

Part of the sale was the promise of two tires and installation when I needed them.

So--what's your recco?

Thanks in advance!

You want this thread to go on forever, don't you....

A lot of Darrell's thoughts seemed to be reflected in the new Dunlop RS 4.

No one except me and a few ne'er do wells like the Metzler Roadtec 01s..., and even with last year's rebate, they're costly..., but with your agreement with the dealer, this might be the only way to justify a trial. I will note that if front wheel cupping bothers your style, then you'll hate the Metzlers.

If you want to go for the cool factor, you might have seen MrVvrroomm's philosophy in an earlier post on this thread. (He rides faster than I on whatever he shows up with.)

My tire-buying philosophy is by the three R's: round, rubber, rebate.

Have fun.

[mojoguzzi]

Part of the sale was the promise of two tires and installation when I needed them.

So--what's your recco?

Thanks in advance!

You want this thread to go on forever, don't you....

My tire-buying philosophy is by the three R's: round, rubber, rebate.

Have fun.

Hahaha! Sorry for the zombification of the thread. Appreciate the feedback.

At least I didn’t ask about oils....

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[darrell]

[quote='mojoguzzi' pid='4940' dateline='1609293484']
Part of the sale was the promise of two tires and installation when I needed them.

So--what's your recco?

Thanks in advance!
with your agreement with the dealer, this might be the only way to justify a trial.

With your dealer arrangement for a new set of tires and mounting I would suggest you try something you have a real interest in. Expensive who cares as they are paying for it. Also make certain whatever tires they install are not some 6 year old tires from a back rack in the warehouse. I’ve seen some cheap tire prices and when I asked on the manufacture date they are 6 - 7 years old or even older.

Of course if it was just me I’d tell you to mount a set of Dunlop Roadsmart IV tires. They are hands down better then the Roadsmart III as a longer mile life tire and maintain their performance through the life of the tire with no noticeable falloff as they wear.

[mojoguzzi]

Good idea. I think I'll try the Roadsmart 5 GTs. Oh, and Darrell--these'll be newly ordered. This dealer doesn't keep many tires in stock; they order for ya. Great folks at MotoRichmond.com

[mspratz]

After reading the article in Rider Magazine about Darrell's experiences with the Dunlop RoadSmart IV tires https://ridermagazine.com/2021/02/13/dun...1587389F7S, I once again compared the prices of the RS IIIs with the IVs on RevZilla.com, and wondered if the IVs are really worth the extra money over the IIIs. I wondered if the extra mileage (based on Darrell's experience) really made them worth the cost. I decided to do a comparison that would take into account all the factors I could think of. I decided to compare the cost of the two models of tire over 100,000 miles. Here is the result, in terms of both dollars, and my time to get the tires changed:
   
I used RevZilla's current prices for the two sets of tires. My installation cost is $100.00 per set if I take only the wheels to my local installer, MCC Motorsports in Villa Park, Illinois. I used Darrell's average mileage over nine sets of RS IIIs, and his mileage for his first set of RS IVs. At those averages he would use 12.8 sets of RS IIIs to go 100,000 miles, but only 9.8 sets of the RS IVs. As you can (hopefully) see in the image, the RS IVs at $4,419.62 are less expensive for that distance than the RS IIIs at $4,500.13.
I also estimated my time cost to get the tires changed. The difference is significant.
One thing I did not take into account is (based on Darrell's assessment) how much better the IVs are than the IIIs.
I've attached my spreadsheet in case anyone wants to tweak the numbers for their own amusement.

[darrell]

Michael - Nice work putting the comparison together.

[darrell]

Post #1 has been updated.

[runnerhiker]

Thanks, Darrell, I am looking forward to hear about the Mutants.

[darrell]

Post #1 updated with Dunlop Mutant tire mileage.

Based on my experience not a preferred tire for Midwest USA more flat land riding. But with the siping on this tire a tire model i'd certainly consider if I lived or rode frequently in a rainy climate like the Pacific NW or lived in an area like the Ozarks, Appalachian Mtns or SW Wisconsin where there is an increased potential of sand in the corners on these narrow roads with little shoulder space.

The tires were very forgiving on sand covered corners in Wisconsin. A noisy tire when cornering but not to the point it bothered me.

[runnerhiker]

Thanks for the update. When I go on a day long ride in the mountains/canyons, I usually come across one or two spots with gravel and/or rock on a curve that has a side road near the curve. I'll probably do Mutants next on my S1000XR. Do you think you'll get 6k miles out of the Mutants?

I am looking forward to having Mutants on the XR and RoadSmart on the RS for easy, everyday comparisons on handling.

[darrell]

Do you think you'll get 6k miles out of the Mutants?

7890 miles when I removed. Front still had a couple thousand left but rear completely used up.