Posts: 128
Threads: 18
Joined: Sep 2020
Reputation:
14
Location: Richmond, VA USA
09-05-2022, 05:28 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-05-2022, 07:04 PM by mojoguzzi.)
Just got back from a 1700+ mile trip. Lots of rain, so I’m cleaning the bike…and notice my shift lever is dangerously loose.
I tightened it, but wonder whether I should use loctite? 29,780 miles so far.
Here's a quick video
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Posts: 222
Threads: 16
Joined: Oct 2020
Reputation:
51
Location: NC, USA
I have heard other talk about that bold coming loose. A dab of blue loctite is a good idea.
Posts: 361
Threads: 17
Joined: Sep 2021
Reputation:
63
Location: Albany, New York
09-06-2022, 04:50 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-06-2022, 04:54 AM by Motorhead1977.)
I encountered the same issue yesterday. My 2020 RS has only 9,000 miles on it. I swapped out my side stand for the one I had shortened by 0.75" and in the process notice the shift lever was loose. Retaining bolt was so loose I could spin it easily by hand. Removed it, cleaned the threads, applied blue loctite and re-tourqed it. Before my next ride I'll be making a trip around the bike examining each fastener just to have some peace of mind.
Happiness comes not from what you have, but from enjoying all that you do have no matter how much or little that may be.
Be stubborn with your dream but flexible with your path
Posts: 2,985
Threads: 196
Joined: Feb 2014
Reputation:
331
Location: Houston, Texas, USA
(09-05-2022, 05:28 PM)mojoguzzi Wrote: Just got back from a 1700+ mile trip. Lots of rain, so I’m cleaning the bike…and notice my shift lever is dangerously loose.
I tightened it, but wonder whether I should use loctite? 29,780 miles so far.
Here's a quick video
I think that the use of the blue Loctite (medium strength) is a good idea. This fasteners is not often removed and should not require much to keep it from backing out. Good tip about checking fasteners, though. I should do similarly before my road trip at month end.
As for washing the bike … not only does it reveal maintenance needs but also the latest scratches and other damage that may go unnoticed. But one has to be paying attention while washing the bike.
Regards,
Grumpy Goat
2016 BMW R1200RS
2023 Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro
Posts: 2,092
Threads: 60
Joined: Jun 2018
Reputation:
240
Location: Iowa, US
I checked both of ours. Is 19 Nm the correct torque?
My chart shows "Gearshift lever to frame"
The lever attaches to a mounting plate so I wanted to be sure I have the correct torque.
Lee
Iowa, USA
2022 R1250RS White Sport
Past BMWs: 2016 R1200RS x 2, 2011 K1300S x 2, 2003 K1200RS x 2, 1991 K75S x 2, 1987 K75T x 2, 1984 R100RT
Posts: 128
Threads: 18
Joined: Sep 2020
Reputation:
14
Location: Richmond, VA USA
Thanks for asking that--I'd too be interested in that spec
Posts: 297
Threads: 20
Joined: Oct 2021
Reputation:
11
Location: United States (MO)
(09-06-2022, 09:28 AM)mojoguzzi Wrote: Thanks for asking that--I'd too be interested in that spec
If one is using Blue LocTite, is hitting the torque number exactly that important? Seems like it might be important that you don't overtighten, but ...
KC Area
Posts: 273
Threads: 16
Joined: Sep 2021
Reputation:
50
Location: Milwaukee, USA
(09-06-2022, 10:13 AM)ESquared Wrote: (09-06-2022, 09:28 AM)mojoguzzi Wrote: Thanks for asking that--I'd too be interested in that spec
If one is using Blue LocTite, is hitting the torque number exactly that important? Seems like it might be important that you don't overtighten, but ...
You don't want to over or under-tighten. Thus torqing to spec is recommended.
Craig
'20 R1250RS
Previous: '21 R1250RS, '03 K1200RS, '01 R1100RS, '83 R800
Posts: 242
Threads: 22
Joined: Nov 2019
Reputation:
54
Location: TX
Under-tightening isn't likely to be a concern at 19 Nm, that's not much past snugged up.
2022 BMW R1250 GSA
2024 Yamaha Xmax
1985 Honda Nighthawk S
1985 Yamaha RZ350
Posts: 2,985
Threads: 196
Joined: Feb 2014
Reputation:
331
Location: Houston, Texas, USA
(09-06-2022, 02:58 PM)Liteitup Wrote: Under-tightening isn't likely to be a concern at 19 Nm, that's not much past snugged up.
Agree 100%. My inclination is that "wrist tight" would be fine. Will check mine in a bit.
Regards,
Grumpy Goat
2016 BMW R1200RS
2023 Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro
Posts: 2,985
Threads: 196
Joined: Feb 2014
Reputation:
331
Location: Houston, Texas, USA
(09-06-2022, 04:23 PM)Grumpy Goat Wrote: Agree 100%. My inclination is that "wrist tight" would be fine. Will check mine in a bit.
Well I couldn't check the tightness of mine as I don't seem to have the right size torx bit ... looks like it needs maybe a 60 mm (?). Anyway, here is the appropriate excerpt from my Haynes Manual. Threadlock is indicated at the top of the second image, which is the continuation of the Installation instruction from the bottom right of the first image.
Regards,
Grumpy Goat
2016 BMW R1200RS
2023 Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro
Posts: 2,092
Threads: 60
Joined: Jun 2018
Reputation:
240
Location: Iowa, US
(09-06-2022, 06:28 PM)Grumpy Goat Wrote: Well I couldn't check the tightness of mine as I don't seem to have the right size torx bit ... looks like it needs maybe a 60 mm (?).
I used T60.
Lee
Iowa, USA
2022 R1250RS White Sport
Past BMWs: 2016 R1200RS x 2, 2011 K1300S x 2, 2003 K1200RS x 2, 1991 K75S x 2, 1987 K75T x 2, 1984 R100RT
Posts: 222
Threads: 16
Joined: Oct 2020
Reputation:
51
Location: NC, USA
09-07-2022, 07:46 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-07-2022, 07:50 AM by TriangleRider.)
(09-06-2022, 08:42 AM)Lee Wrote: I checked both of ours. Is 19 Nm the correct torque?
The service CD shows 19 Nm for the Gearshift lever to frame bolt.
Posts: 2,985
Threads: 196
Joined: Feb 2014
Reputation:
331
Location: Houston, Texas, USA
09-07-2022, 11:06 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-07-2022, 11:06 AM by Grumpy Goat.)
(09-07-2022, 07:25 AM)Lee Wrote: I used T60.
Yeah, thanks for confirming. I should check what other large torx bits I need for this bike in general. I top out at T55.
Regards,
Grumpy Goat
2016 BMW R1200RS
2023 Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro
Posts: 2,985
Threads: 196
Joined: Feb 2014
Reputation:
331
Location: Houston, Texas, USA
(09-07-2022, 07:46 AM)TriangleRider Wrote: (09-06-2022, 08:42 AM)Lee Wrote: I checked both of ours. Is 19 Nm the correct torque?
The service CD shows 19 Nm for the Gearshift lever to frame bolt.
Haynes says the same.
Regards,
Grumpy Goat
2016 BMW R1200RS
2023 Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro
Posts: 492
Threads: 42
Joined: Jun 2018
Reputation:
57
Location: NC, USA
I noticed the same issue on my '16RS at around 20K miles. Also used blue Loctite. No problem since then
Posts: 2,092
Threads: 60
Joined: Jun 2018
Reputation:
240
Location: Iowa, US
(09-07-2022, 07:46 AM)TriangleRider Wrote: (09-06-2022, 08:42 AM)Lee Wrote: I checked both of ours. Is 19 Nm the correct torque?
The service CD shows 19 Nm for the Gearshift lever to frame bolt.
Thank you
Lee
Iowa, USA
2022 R1250RS White Sport
Past BMWs: 2016 R1200RS x 2, 2011 K1300S x 2, 2003 K1200RS x 2, 1991 K75S x 2, 1987 K75T x 2, 1984 R100RT
|