(10-04-2020, 03:24 AM)Mostly Simian Wrote: On a separate note, a few options that I found interesting that are *not* in this list but are in the 2021 GS update:
1. Heated seat (with 5 levels of rider seat and handlebar heat. You set it up via the TFT and then the handlebar button turns on and off). 2 levels of pillion seat heat switchable via a physical switch next to the pillion seat (so they can adjust themselves)
2. ECO riding mode for improved fuel economy, longer range and what have you
3. Riding mode list selection (the tft has a set of check boxes for which riding modes you want to switch between like you have for the top line info items now. So if you don’t use dynamic pro or eco for example they wouldn’t clutter up the selection. More of a big deal for the GS because it now has 7 modes if you have riding modes pro)

...it would be nice if these become options on the RS.

I agree fully, and IMO the reason is that the GS is so overwhelmingly popular that new features are offered there first, and the RS which is also a sport touring machine and which can also benefit from heated seats and ECO mode, is either relegated to getting it afterwards or not at all.

That incidentally is one of the reasons I made the RSWasserboxer.com website and this Forum Community - to try and bring greater awareness to the RS and hopefully pull it out of the shadow of the GS. Not easy to gain traction in that regard.

(10-04-2020, 11:12 AM)Grumpy Goat Wrote: That incidentally is one of the reasons I made the RSWasserboxer.com website and this Forum Community - to try and bring greater awareness to the RS and hopefully pull it out of the shadow of the GS. Not easy to gain traction in that regard.

Keep fighting the good fight. As a former GS-owner who came back to biking on an RS I can say with confidence that as good as the GS is (and I think it’s a wonderful bike), the RS is better for probably the vast majority of riders. Having owned both (and an RT briefly) I know that’s the case for me.

The optimist in me is hoping that 2021 is a small update because they’re saving up a big update for next time (lighter, bigger tank and extra bells and whistles like the above).

I like the idea of the turn signals staying on and the extra brake lights in the back.
I'm surprised BMW had not done this years ago.

(10-05-2020, 07:08 AM)Lee Wrote: I like the idea of the turn signals staying on and the extra brake lights in the back.
I'm surprised BMW had not done this years ago.

If the Kisan SignalMinder could do it in 1999, you would think BMW could catch on........

I have not heard of any reliability issues with the ShiftCam, has anybody heard anything different? As far as new features, all I want is more power, less weight, and more comfort. That's all.

(10-05-2020, 07:08 AM)Lee Wrote: I like the idea of the turn signals staying on and the extra brake lights in the back.
I'm surprised BMW had not done this years ago.

The Billie light is a fantastic add on. Doesn’t get much simpler to install either. Bright is an understatement.


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(10-12-2020, 12:02 PM)runnerhiker Wrote: I have not heard of any reliability issues with the ShiftCam, has anybody heard anything different? As far as new features, all I want is more power, less weight, and more comfort. That's all.

My 1250RT has 17,000 miles with zero engine issues but I had an issue with leaking front brake calipers that was resolved by the dealer.
The 1250 motor has a great power with gas mileage that is similar to the 1200RS. In Gunnison I was hoping to do some roll on comparisons with 1200RSs but it was not meant to be.

(10-17-2020, 04:45 PM)Olgry1 Wrote: In Gunnison I was hoping to do some roll on comparisons with 1200RSs but it was not meant to be.

We're still on for that in 2021 in Ohio.

Sounds good Wayne

I don’t recall any 1200/1250 roll on tests in Gunnison. But, I can neither confirm nor deny that there may have been some top speed research :-)


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(10-18-2020, 11:25 AM)Duccrazydave Wrote: I don’t recall any 1200/1250 roll on tests in Gunnison. But, I can neither confirm nor deny that there may have been some top speed research :-)

I can confirm that I heard others have done similar research.

(10-18-2020, 06:43 PM)Olgry1 Wrote:

(10-18-2020, 11:25 AM)Duccrazydave Wrote: I don’t recall any 1200/1250 roll on tests in Gunnison. But, I can neither confirm nor deny that there may have been some top speed research :-)

I can confirm that I heard others have done similar research.

The lupin always wins

(10-19-2020, 08:57 AM)codydawg Wrote: If these bikes were on the autobahn, how would you imagine they would compare?

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In Bavaria, the Lupin, by law, will be faster