(03-13-2021, 08:41 AM)mojoguzzi Wrote: Anyone have the handlebar torque specs handy?


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You can just see it on the Hornig picture.
19Nm. That is the correct figure also from the BMW manual (14lbft)
Alan

(03-13-2021, 04:31 AM)AlanM Wrote: Hi all,
Pockermouth,
I have done this on both 1200 and 1250RS and have found that after some hours on the first one, plus skinned knuckles, that this cuts the tierap behind the radiator. No snips or scissors can reach and then cut that I have seen.
A HOT SOLDERING IRON
Very very carefully.

I like that solution.

(03-13-2021, 09:04 AM)AlanM Wrote:

(03-13-2021, 08:41 AM)mojoguzzi Wrote: Anyone have the handlebar torque specs handy?


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You can just see it on the Hornig picture.
19Nm. That is the correct figure also from the BMW manual (14lbft)
Alan

D’oh! Auf deutsch und auch englisch.


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I did the replacement. It doesn't SEEM like there's an issue with the clutch cable.. that is, at full lock, I can't tell if it's any different than before, TBH.

I would have a video up here, but, damn, video issues are so annoying (Sony a6400 creates .MTS files that have to then be converted to m4v files that then lose their sound and such and soforth. Gonna ride now).

(03-14-2021, 09:54 PM)mojoguzzi Wrote: I would have a video up here, but, damn, video issues are so annoying (Sony a6400 creates .MTS files that have to then be converted to m4v files that then lose their sound and such and soforth. Gonna ride now).

What editor are you using? The one I use can read .MTS files directly. That would probably make the job much easier for you.

(03-15-2021, 07:11 AM)Grumpy Goat Wrote: I would have a video up here, but, damn, video issues are so annoying (Sony a6400 creates .MTS files that have to then be converted to m4v files that then lose their sound and such and soforth. Gonna ride now).

After much frustration, I've got the video up. It's taking me awhile to get used to Final Cut Pro, but I hope the vids are getting better.

To the question of the clutch cable--it seems like there's no tension. Looks fine to me. Am I dreaming/fooling myself? Hmmm.

Brothers, Bikes, & Bourbon Video about Hornig Risers

(03-15-2021, 10:01 PM)mojoguzzi Wrote: After much frustration, I've got the video up. It's taking me awhile to get used to Final Cut Pro, but I hope the vids are getting better.

Just watched it ... and "Liked" it. Good angles and the A6400 does a good job. AAMOF I bought a Sony RX100 Mark VII because of the excellent autofocus and ease of use for my DIY videos and also because it is an advanced pocket camera it is great for travel and even normal vlogging.

The installation looks great and looks like the clutch hose is not too taut. Looks like there may have been some interference with the GPS at a right lock, but from the angle you presented I could not be sure.

Oh, and thanks for the plug, BTW.

(03-16-2021, 07:29 AM)Grumpy Goat Wrote:

(03-15-2021, 10:01 PM)mojoguzzi Wrote: After much frustration, I've got the video up. It's taking me awhile to get used to Final Cut Pro, but I hope the vids are getting better.

The installation looks great and looks like the clutch hose is not too taut. Looks like there may have been some interference with the GPS at a right lock, but from the angle you presented I could not be sure.

I'll post a test ride where I adjust the GPS mount.

(03-13-2021, 04:31 AM)AlanM Wrote: Hi all,
Pockermouth,
I have done this on both 1200 and 1250RS and have found that after some hours on the first one, plus skinned knuckles, that this cuts the tierap behind the radiator. No snips or scissors can reach and then cut that I have seen.
A HOT SOLDERING IRON
Very very carefully.
Sorry that I did not notice this thread earlier.
There is the same issue on the R1200RS forum.

Alan

I saw this too late, I knew there’s a tool for what I needed to do, ‘something with a hot tip on the end of it’ note to self 100 times during that 4 hour travail.

Thank you. I wish I knew how to make videos because somebody else could have benefited from my problems (but not my problem solving, which is not a thing).

So now the bars are installed, and you know not really that much better than the Ilium Works Risers. But because I rerouted the clutch cable I think I can install a set of R type Wunderlich Bar Risers. So we will see.


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(03-25-2021, 07:18 PM)Pockomoth Wrote:

(03-13-2021, 04:31 AM)AlanM Wrote: Hi all,
Pockermouth,
I have done this on both 1200 and 1250RS and have found that after some hours on the first one, plus skinned knuckles, that this cuts the tierap behind the radiator. No snips or scissors can reach and then cut that I have seen.
A HOT SOLDERING IRON
Very very carefully.
Sorry that I did not notice this thread earlier.
There is the same issue on the R1200RS forum.

Alan

I saw this too late, I knew there’s a tool for what I needed to do, ‘something with a hot tip on the end of it’ note to self 100 times during that 4 hour travail.

Thank you. I wish I knew how to make videos because somebody else could have benefited from my problems (but not my problem solving, which is not a thing).

So now the bars are installed, and you know not really that much better than the Ilium Works Risers. But because I rerouted the clutch cable I think I can install a set of R type Wunderlich Bar Risers. So we will see.


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Sorry if I'm "that guy" who keeps resurrecting old threads, but there's so much relevant content in this place, that it's impossible to resist.

Did you end up completing this conversion with the Wunderlich "kit"? Meaning, their bars/risers/adapters? I'm trying to compare the Wunderlich approach to those who just spec'd "R" Bars, but I'm not clear on what risers are used in that scenario?

Anyway, would be very interested in hearing from anyone on any bar conversions you've done this season.

Thanks in advance, as always!

(11-01-2021, 08:27 PM)ESquared Wrote: Sorry if I'm "that guy" who keeps resurrecting old threads, but there's so much relevant content in this place, that it's impossible to resist.

Did you end up completing this conversion with the Wunderlich "kit"? Meaning, their bars/risers/adapters? I'm trying to compare the Wunderlich approach to those who just spec'd "R" Bars, but I'm not clear on what risers are used in that scenario?

Anyway, would be very interested in hearing from anyone on any bar conversions you've done this season.

Thanks in advance, as always!

Ergonomics - always a hot topic. No need for apologies.

I've always been a fan of the Dave Moss videos (though to be honest, with some minor adjustments of stock levers and a sport seat, the RS fit me like a glove right out of the create - a major reason for my purchase). Here's a link to his trailer on handlebar adjustments to give everyone even more to think about.



I assume that some of the old guys at the shop could walk a rider through all the options for optimizing one's fit to the bike (bars, hand and foot levers, pegs, suspension, windscreen...), but I'm unaware of anyone, who does bike fits for a living. (I know a lot of professional fitters for the pedal bikes, where the fit is critical to avoid injury; not clear why I don't see more advertising for the motorbike equivalent.)

(11-01-2021, 09:15 PM)Ray Wrote: Ergonomics - always a hot topic. No need for apologies.

I've always been a fan of the Dave Moss videos (though to be honest, with some minor adjustments of stock levers and a sport seat, the RS fit me like a glove right out of the create - a major reason for my purchase). Here's a link to his trailer on handlebar adjustments to give everyone even more to think about.
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Dave Moss has some stuff figured out, doesn't he? Great things to think about.