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(10-30-2021, 03:47 PM)ESquared Wrote: Great test ride today for my first time on a boxer! It was Debbie's bike, according to Peter,
Debbie's bike has the blue Pazzo levers. Did you make sure to not get it dirty 
If ESA is still not available in November will you modify the suspension?
I like how ESA limits front end dive. I got used to that with the Duolever front suspension on the K1300S and the Telelever front suspension on the K1200RS.
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(10-30-2021, 06:23 PM)Lee Wrote: (10-30-2021, 03:47 PM)ESquared Wrote: Great test ride today for my first time on a boxer! It was Debbie's bike, according to Peter,
Debbie's bike has the blue Pazzo levers. Did you make sure to not get it dirty
If ESA is still not available in November will you modify the suspension?
I like how ESA limits front end dive. I got used to that with the Duolever front suspension on the K1300S and the Telelever front suspension on the K1200RS.
Yes, liked those shorty levers. Had a set of ASVs on the T120 that just went away (sad day/good day). Returned it as spotless as it was sitting inside.
We won't proceed with the order until ESA is back in the mix; November has just been suggested as the timing for opening dealers back up to getting their allocation. No one seems to know when production will actually resume with all the bells and whistles.
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Ordered the Suburban Machinery peg lowering bracket today. I like that it keeps the pegs in tight.
Next on the list will be an upgrade on the Helibar risers but more research needed.
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(06-09-2022, 08:22 PM)maxredline Wrote: Ordered the Suburban Machinery peg lowering bracket today. I like that it keeps the pegs in tight.
Next on the list will be an upgrade on the Helibar risers but more research needed.
It will be interesting (at least to me!) to hear what you think of the peg lowering kit. I've never known anything but this set-up, so I have no real "before vs. after" comparison to make.
As I recall from my research, not only does the Suburban Machinery design keep the pegs on their original "in/out" plane, it's one of the few options that truly moves the pegs forward and down. The BMW kit, as I remember, moves the pegs lower, but also moves them slightly back, which made no sense for me.
Anyway, look forward to your ride report once you get 'em installed.
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How does the peg lowering effect lean thru corners? I admit, coming from a S1000RR that had a lean angle gauge on the dash, I got used to pushing thru corners. In the week and a half I've had my RS, I've already managed to scrape the peg feeler once, and the center stand once.
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(06-10-2022, 04:45 PM)SoCalR1200RS Wrote: How does the peg lowering effect lean thru corners? I admit, coming from a S1000RR that had a lean angle gauge on the dash, I got used to pushing thru corners. In the week and a half I've had my RS, I've already managed to scrape the peg feeler once, and the center stand once.
For most of the riders that lower the pegs due to bad backs, bad knees, etc., lowering the pegs has no effect on their lean angle.
In theory, maximal lean angle might be reduced, but then, one can always remove the pavement feelers from the pegs.
On the road, I try to avoid maximal lean - always want to keep a several degrees of lean in reserve.
I also scraped some early on, but then I eased back on the tendency to trail brake as I lean into the turn. Getting all my anticipated braking in before the turn allows me to open the throttle at the beginning of the turn, which raises the bike a little, and allows a greater maximal lean angle/reserve
Of course, as MSpratz correctly points out, blind corners are best handled with trail braking to the apex..., and yeah, when I get surprised, I'm off the throttle, on the brake, and sometimes scraping the peg or center stand or twice, the cylinder head (thank you OEM head guards).
Coming off the RR, when you're ready, you might take a look at the Truvativ option. I suspect Chris123 probably has the riding style closet to yours, and you might see he thinks it makes a difference in cornering speed.
Attached - surprised in the rain on 129 and trail braking. Still plenty of room.
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Mentioning peg "feelers", the R1200RS is my first BMW with them. Interestingly, a peg "feeler" is the only thing I've ever caught on a pant leg or shoelace.
I knocked, but the door was open.......
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(06-10-2022, 06:12 AM)ESquared Wrote: (06-09-2022, 08:22 PM)maxredline Wrote: Ordered the Suburban Machinery peg lowering bracket today. I like that it keeps the pegs in tight.
Next on the list will be an upgrade on the Helibar risers but more research needed.
It will be interesting (at least to me!) to hear what you think of the peg lowering kit. I've never known anything but this set-up, so I have no real "before vs. after" comparison to make.
As I recall from my research, not only does the Suburban Machinery design keep the pegs on their original "in/out" plane, it's one of the few options that truly moves the pegs forward and down. The BMW kit, as I remember, moves the pegs lower, but also moves them slightly back, which made no sense for me.
Anyway, look forward to your ride report once you get 'em installed.
Well I was wrong on one thing, the SM lowered pegs are out board a tad more. The right peg/brake assembly is on a lowering block that does not change the brake engagement. The left just changes the peg so that the shifter is more inboard relative to the peg and an adjustment has to be made. I didn't find the shifters new relative position was a problem on my ride.
In conclusion, the lowering the pegs and changing the seat up one to standard released the impingement I was feeling on my repaired knee.
I also found it made the Helibar risers a tad more comfortable but a handlebar conversion is in the works.
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(06-10-2022, 04:45 PM)SoCalR1200RS Wrote: How does the peg lowering effect lean thru corners? I admit, coming from a S1000RR that had a lean angle gauge on the dash, I got used to pushing thru corners. In the week and a half I've had my RS, I've already managed to scrape the peg feeler once, and the center stand once.
I bought my 2016 with lowered pegs, and in road mode, they are pretty easy to scrape. Not in dynamic. The pegs are from a company called KD, Knight Design. They move the pegs down and back. I would like to try some stock pegs, if anyone has a set for sale, or can direct me to a good aftermarket peg option.
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(06-04-2024, 07:33 AM)strubes250 Wrote: (06-10-2022, 04:45 PM)SoCalR1200RS Wrote: How does the peg lowering effect lean thru corners? I admit, coming from a S1000RR that had a lean angle gauge on the dash, I got used to pushing thru corners. In the week and a half I've had my RS, I've already managed to scrape the peg feeler once, and the center stand once.
I bought my 2016 with lowered pegs, and in road mode, they are pretty easy to scrape. Not in dynamic. The pegs are from a company called KD, Knight Design. They move the pegs down and back. I would like to try some stock pegs, if anyone has a set for sale, or can direct me to a good aftermarket peg option.
Do you have the stock mounting plates? Also, you don't say how tall you are or your inseam. I have a 16 RS with stock pegs and find them comfortable as I am 71" with a 32" inseam. Look on Ebay for the stock pegs if you have the stock mounts.
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